A319XFW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 9918 times:
All of the 4 other flight test aircraft (apart from MSN001) will be going to Etihad - the Engine Alliance test aircraft will be re-engined back to RR for delivery. So it goes from RR to EA to RR again!
They must have got a good deal on that!
Leelaw From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 9769 times:
Why couldn't Airbus find an Engine Alliance customer (like EK) to take MNS007 instead of having to re-engine it for delivery to Etihad. Isn't this unsual...I don't recall a similar procedure with flight test aircraft in other programs?
Especially as they are first flying it with Trents, then re-engining it to GP7000s just to re-re-engine it to Trents. Somehow this makes no sense to me.
Ka From Switzerland, joined Apr 2000, 644 posts, RR: 11 Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 9697 times:
Quoting Leelaw (Reply 5): Isn't this unsual...I don't recall a similar procedure with flight test aircraft in other programs?
Yes, has been done before. Prototype of the A330-200 MSN181 had f/f with GE-engines (-202), converted to RR (-242) for flighttests and again converted to PW (-223) for delivery to OS. Still flying with OS as OE-LAO.
Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 6): Especially as they are first flying it with Trents, then re-engining it to GP7000s just to re-re-engine it to Trents.
Leelaw From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 9665 times:
Quoting Scorpio (Reply 7): The 777 prototype was re-engined from PW to RR and delivered to Cathay. The first A330 was re-engined from GE to RR, also for delivery to Cathay.
Thanx for the information Scorpio. Is MSN007 a prototype or a production standard aircraft?
797charter From Denmark, joined Jun 2005, 219 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 9558 times:
Quoting Thorben (Reply 12): Quoting 797charter (Thread starter):
Can't wait to see pics of every flying A380 the next 30-40 years
I can't either. Same goes for all A340s and A350s!
You are so right!!!
I saw the 346 for the first time live at the Paris Air Show - beautiful machine!
Quoting Ka (Reply 9): Yes, has been done before. Prototype of the A330-200 MSN181 had f/f with GE-engines (-202), converted to RR (-242) for flighttests and again converted to PW (-223) for delivery to OS. Still flying with OS as OE-LAO.
And Airbus' own 318 has been re-engined 2 times - last time for the new PW I think - can anyone confirm???
A319XFW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 9425 times:
Quoting Leelaw (Reply 5): Quoting A319XFW (Reply 3):
the Engine Alliance test aircraft will be re-engined back to RR for delivery. So it goes from RR to EA to RR again!
It will only be from EA to RR, as MSN009´s first flight will be with EA already.
Quoting Thorben (Reply 12): According to Flug Revue (November 2005) MSN 007 will be flying with RR engines, then be re-engined to GP7200 and after that re-engined to trents.
I agree with Thorben, that's where I got it from too. But it might have changed since then?
I guess both you and we are right . There will be 2 A380s which will be re-engined. MSN007 gets Trents first, will then get GPs and after that will get Trents again. MSN 009 starts with GPs and is later re-engined to Trents, all information according to Flug Revue 11/2005, p. 26.
I really think it is strange that they are re-engining 2 airplanes.
A319XFW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 9372 times:
Yes, tehre will be only one prototype with EA engines. I'll have to check what it's engined first as then! I only heard that like all the others it's been delayed.
Thorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 9246 times:
Quoting A319XFW (Reply 15): Quoting Thorben (Reply 12):
According to Flug Revue (November 2005) MSN 007 will be flying with RR engines, then be re-engined to GP7200 and after that re-engined to trents.
I agree with Thorben, that's where I got it from too. But it might have changed since then?
A360 From Portugal, joined exactly 8 years ago today! , 434 posts, RR: 9 Reply 20, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 8305 times:
Do you know when the first Engine Alliance powered 380 (supposedly MSN009) will have it's first flight?www
NYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5220 posts, RR: 49 Reply 22, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6945 times:
Looking at the pics...I guess Airbus ran out of paint or doi they need another subsidy just for that?
I guess they are letting Hamburg practise the painting. Don't forget that future A380s are to be painted in XFW if I remember correct. So maybe they are testing the procedures in Fuhlsb�ttel. But I really don't have a clue about it
26 A360: All the A380's (apart from the first 2 already flying) will be painted at hamburg. " target=_blank>http://www.enginealliance.com/ Thank you! Regards:
27 PillowTester: How come we didnt have an update for every new E170 to fly? How long is this going to last for the A380?
29 Glideslope: That's easy. This is an EU based site.
30 TheSonntag: Apart from the fact that every 777LR flight was commented here as well, the A380 is quite another caliber in terms of aviation history than the certa
31 Revelation: You didn't have to open this thread!
32 Slarty: Lucky them ... at least they have deep pockets First time I saw the A346, I flash-backed to when I flew the 707/DC-8 "4 engines 4 long haul" in the 7
33 JetMaster: And what does that mean exactly? Could you please elaborate? Regards, JM
34 Alessandro: NYC777, da germans will paint it and fit in da interior.
35 A319XFW: Let me practise quoting people... That's the second time I got it wrong! But XFW is Finkenwerder, not Fuhlsbüttel I think this site was set-up in Sw
36 JetMaster: Sure it is - but I'd like to know what the guy implies with his reference... Regards, JM
37 797charter: EEEHHH, - now I got it! And Boeing can't wait to start building some KC767/777's, - so they can afford to build the 787, - and start drawing the 737
38 Thorben: Don't let them turn this into another A vs. B. We all know that B gets no subsidies, they only get tax rebates that they don't need, considering that
39 Knoxibus: It is in one hand but the runway extension is necessary for MTOW TO, and for the future models (Freighter andpossibly -900). Airbus' test pilots can
40 TheSonntag: Of course it is Finkenwerder, they just sound so similiar. Anyway, what is this ugly green on the fuselage? Some kind of paint? This A380 was outside
41 A360: And when are the works going to be completed?
42 Thorben: It's coming to XFW today, expected landing time is 14:00. Anybody there who's going to take some pictures??
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. There will be 2 A380s which will be re-engined. MSN007 gets Trents first, will then get GPs and after that will get Trents again. MSN 009 starts with GPs and is later re-engined to Trents, all information according to Flug Revue 11/2005, p. 26.
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