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Whats A UA 777 Doing In Hong Kong

FL370 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 252 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 4852 times:

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i was looking through the database and saw a UA 777 in hong kong. i thought UA only flew the 47s there!! is there a new route or something!!! becuase that plane would be packed!!! please someone fill me in. thanks

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JohnClipper From Hong Kong, joined Aug 2005, 765 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 4825 times:

I hope it's carrying passengers and flying! Seriously, the NRT-HKG flight has been changed to a B777.

N754PR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 4592 times:

Correct, they operate the NRT service and its a great change from the 744's!!

MCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8553 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 4557 times:

I thank all of you who know what their talking about. Its been that way for six months. My friend recently got promoted from B777 FO to A320 Capt. He flew there 5 mths ago if I recall right before he got promoted.

MCOflyer

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Flyingbronco05 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3838 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 4456 times:

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 3):
My friend recently got promoted from B777 FO to A320 Capt.

Sounds like a demotion to me Silly

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N754PR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4051 times:

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 3):
thank all of you who know what their talking about. Its been that way for six months. My friend recently got promoted from B777 FO to A320 Capt. He flew there 5 mths ago if I recall right before he got promoted.

MCOflyer

1st service was in May so thats not possible.

BG777300ER From Bulgaria, joined Mar 2005, 248 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3860 times:

Quoting Flyingbronco05 (Reply 4):
Sounds like a demotion to me

Hmm..is it true that senior pilots are given domestic routes so they can be home more often. I thought they send younger pilots on international flights since it's worse because you are away from home a lot of time.

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UA777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3789 times:

Quoting Flyingbronco05 (Reply 4):
Sounds like a demotion to me Silly

Actually far from it. I don't have the exact numbers but it's probably a fair pay upgrade. He is gaurenteed the same amount of hours so the work time isn't that bad and just has a higher pay-per-hour rate. Congrats to him.

Thanks,

Matt

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UA777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3789 times:

Oh and seniority...

Matt

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Laxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22054 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3668 times:

Quoting BG777300ER (Reply 6):
Hmm..is it true that senior pilots are given domestic routes so they can be home more often. I thought they send younger pilots on international flights since it's worse because you are away from home a lot of time.

In general its the other way around. The junior pilots get stuck on the smaller and lower paying equipment types such as the 737, A320 and get to see lots of exotic places like Omaha, while the more senior pilots tend to fly the larger and higher paying types such as the 777/744 doing primarily all international flying.

Ultimately tough its all up to seniority. If some one wants to forgo pay increase they can remain on the smaller equipment types and fly all domestic.
However, on thing to keep in mind domestic guys tend to fly and are gone for more days due to the shorter nature of flights and need to build up hours. An international person can meet their monthly guarantee with sometimes as few as 3 trips.

Quoting Flyingbronco05 (Reply 4):
Sounds like a demotion to me

Here are UAs payrates.
http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/legacy/united.html

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N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79
Reply 10, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3573 times:

Quoting BG777300ER (Reply 6):

Hmm..is it true that senior pilots are given domestic routes so they can be home more often. I thought they send younger pilots on international flights since it's worse because you are away from home a lot of time.

That is a very European thing where pay rates are based only on senority and seat, not aircraft size. In the US, it is far more lucrative and attractive for pilots to fly as long haul as possible and it also keeps them home more.

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Jacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 61
Reply 11, posted (6 years 10 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3448 times:

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 9):
Here are UAs payrates.
http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/legacy/united.html

thanks for the link.. checkmark

I found this to be interesting from the link for UA......

" Monthly Guarantee: 65 hours
Reserve Guarantee: 70 hours"

I was chatting with a BA 744 Captain recently (he was inclined to chat much more after I turned on my PDA and showed him a BA-744 as my PDA wallpaper...talk about getting lucky... biggrin

), and he told me that a BA 744 Captain works around 900 hours/year of flying time....which equates to 42-43 roundtrip LHR-SFO-LHR flights per year....or 4/month.....

Does that sound accurate?

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