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Helvetic New Colors - Here Is She...  
User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1667 posts, RR: 8
Posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2978 times:

We have talk allready about that, but the thread is now closed: http://www1.airliners.net/discussion...general_aviation/read.main/3019085

Here are the first pictures of this aircraft:



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Here is the official link (in german): http://www.helvetic.com/dynamic_content/PressArticle_65.html

29 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineFlySSC From Lebanon, joined Aug 2003, 7179 posts, RR: 65
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2971 times:

Wow ! Red with a white cross !!!

How original !  Wink

User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 54
Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2956 times:

Except for the belly, it looks a lot like one of SR's old F-100s.

User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 5834 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2918 times:
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Why did they get rid of the hot pink colours?

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Photo © Rolf Wallner


Looks very smart though!

User currently offlineMd95 From Italy, joined Apr 2005, 104 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2867 times:

Another red/white Swiss color; how boring!!


dario
User currently offlineMIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2839 times:

Quoting Md95 (Reply 4):
Another red/white Swiss color; how boring!!

yeah  Sad

The pink was great! why???

My theory holds true, the airlines with perfectly good liveries can't wait to get a crappy look. Thoses that DO need a change.. (like EL AL, Lufthansa) don't bother!  gnasher 

User currently offlineMagyarorszag From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2808 times:

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 2):
Except for the belly, it looks a lot like one of SR's old F-100s.

For my part, I would rather say that it looks more like the old Crossair colors. The one where the red went around the rear fuselage.

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 1):
Wow ! Red with a white cross !!! How original !

I agree. Too bad.

Quoting Md95 (Reply 4):
how boring

Its too dull for an LCC.

User currently offlineFlySSC From Lebanon, joined Aug 2003, 7179 posts, RR: 65
Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2726 times:

Quoting Magyarorszag (Reply 6):
I would rather say that it looks more like the old Crossair colors

right :
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I hope they didn't pay $$$$ to a design bureau for this !

User currently offlineRikkus67 From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 1358 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2724 times:

Isn't there some rule for airlines in Switzerland to prominently wear the national flag as part of its livery? Correct me if I am wrong...


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User currently offlineOwlEye From Netherlands, joined Feb 2006, 852 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2716 times:
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Swiss people disliked the magenta Helvetic image from the beginning. This new livery is not an improvement, not innovative rather boring. Anyway it does serve and satifies the Swiss public now but is this all they could come up with? Inspireless.

An Helvetic livery comparison:

http://www.liladesign.com/liladesign...c118bf0c7e3d5c1a4b6a0461849-4.html

User currently offlineMagyarorszag From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2692 times:

Quoting OwlEye (Reply 9):
Swiss people disliked the magenta Helvetic image from the beginning.

That's not my case ! The only trouble with the magenta image was the small title on the tail.

User currently offlineOwlEye From Netherlands, joined Feb 2006, 852 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2677 times:
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Quoting Magyarorszag (Reply 10):
That's not my case !

That the Swiss did not like to magenta look of Helvetic is a true story, not my own story...

User currently offlineMagyarorszag From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2666 times:

Quoting OwlEye (Reply 11):
That the Swiss did not like to magenta look of Helvetic is a true story, not my own story...

That's the way I understood it, but as it doesn't shows, I'm also Swiss, so...  Smile

User currently offlineZRHnerd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2620 times:

Quoting OwlEye (Reply 11):

Ah we're just too patriotic  Yeah sure

User currently offlineKoenie From Belgium, joined Oct 2004, 46 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2578 times:

It seems "conservative" is fashionable in switserland. (and some other countries)

User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4492 posts, RR: 54
Reply 15, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2507 times:

damn, they got rid of the magenta!


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User currently offlineDrgmobile From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 419 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2500 times:

My first thought was that the company was acquired by Lufthansa and was being positioned as a Swiss partner. Guess that's not the case? Funny, I'd actually have thought that Swiss International might have trademark infringement with this one, even if it is the flag of Switzerland.

User currently offlineZRHnerd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2466 times:

Quoting Drgmobile (Reply 16):
Guess that's not the case

That's correct.

User currently offlineSrbmod From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 16021 posts, RR: 57
Reply 18, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2439 times:
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It looks better than that Pepto-Bismal colored livery they started out with.


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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 54
Reply 19, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2404 times:

Quoting Drgmobile (Reply 16):
Funny, I'd actually have thought that Swiss International might have trademark infringement with this one, even if it is the flag of Switzerland.

Why a trademark infringement issue for LX? Only because their parent LH owns the SR brand and the tail looks a lot like the all red tail with the white cross that SR used to have?

User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2388 times:

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 18):
t looks better than that Pepto-Bismal colored livery they started out with.

The stuff is called Pepto-Bismol and it is great, I always drink it when I am in the USA, it repairs your stomach within minutes after a heavy carousal.  Wink

As for the livery, somehow I liked to old one better, the new one is boring and reminds me too much of Swissair.

Patrick

User currently offlineRJ100 From Russia, joined Nov 2000, 4099 posts, RR: 46
Reply 21, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2351 times:

In fact you are not allowed to use the Swiss flag as your main logo for commercial reasons...
There you see how many times the law gets broken  Wink .

As for Helvetic, they dropped their low cost services and their new customers are more conservative, the new conservative logo fits perfect with them  Wink .

RJ100


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User currently offlineZRHnerd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2292 times:

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 21):
In fact you are not allowed to use the Swiss flag as your main logo for commercial reasons...
There you see how many times the law gets broken

Wasn't that the debate they just recently held? I think they are about to change the laws to what you have just stated above. Special permission will be have to be acquired to use the Swiss flag for commercial use.

User currently offlineRJ100 From Russia, joined Nov 2000, 4099 posts, RR: 46
Reply 23, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2270 times:

Yes, so far in fact only State owned companies are allowed to use the flag.
Even Swiss would not qualify for this at the moment since they became a private owned company. In a lesser extend there is also Belair (as a relict of former SAirGroup) and Helvetic...
In fact the Swiss flag gets used so many times, souvenirs, watches, knives etc. but the law now sees some changes. Probably they will make a big change so that the flag can legally be used by private companies too. As you see it happens anyway and it's almost impossible to control.

The whole thing is not unproblematic. The image of a country in the hands of private companies...

Regards,
RJ100

[Edited 2006-11-30 23:12:44]


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User currently offlineGerardo From Switzerland, joined May 2000, 3479 posts, RR: 42
Reply 24, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2214 times:

Never knew, that Victorinox, Swatch and so on are state owned. But I guess, they are the same outlaws as Swiss International ...


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25 RJ100: Then you should read my post again. Regards, RJ100
26 SwissA330: No, they do need a 'prominent' swiss flag, just a small one next to the registration (as other swiss airlines or helvetic previously had) is enough.
27 Post contains images Gerardo: Sorry, RJ100, but I rather listen to the pro's in this area. No offence meant Gerardo
28 Post contains images A388: Nice livery, I like it. It's simple but very well recognisable as a Swiss airline of course. Good luck to Helvetic A388
29 Post contains images Lsgg: Totally agree with this ! Fed up with non sense magenta !
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