LTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 53 Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 11739 times:
Quoting A342 (Reply 1): But what is it doing in TLS, and why has it a French reg ? Never seen that on German-assembled Airbuses before.
Probably some extra flight testing prior to delivery. That's my guess.
Quoting Ari (Reply 3): Anybody know what kind of routing it will be taking to reach south america?!?
Who knows. Regardless of whether it will be delivered through SMA and MAO or through DKR and MAO, the initial routing might be very long and tight in range if it doesn't have any temporary aux tanks, but once in South America, probably Brazil, it shouldn't be very difficult to get the A318 to SCL.
I guess the delivery might be XFW-SMA-MAO-SCL with aux tanks. The same if delivery is from TLS.
Zeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 6800 posts, RR: 73 Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 11665 times:
Quoting LH526 (Reply 7): Anyone know the exact first inaugural flight date for LA? Any proposed routings?
Just noticed that that aircraft has the trailing probe as well, which means its a certification flight, will have to wait for it to get certified first.
A342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4627 posts, RR: 4 Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 11573 times:
Quoting LTU932 (Reply 5): I guess the delivery might be XFW-SMA-MAO-SCL with aux tanks. The same if delivery is from TLS.
Depending on the MTOW LA has selected, aux tanks might not be needed at all. Additionally, you can chose a route where you don't need them, even with a low MTOW. I suspect that's what they'll do.
LTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 53 Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 11516 times:
Quoting A342 (Reply 10): Depending on the MTOW LA has selected, aux tanks might not be needed at all. Additionally, you can chose a route where you don't need them, even with a low MTOW. I suspect that's what they'll do.
I should have been more clear, so I apologise for the misunderstanding. With aux tanks, I meant temporary aux tanks, similar to those used on delivery flights of 717s to Hawaii.
VictorKilo From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 290 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 11393 times:
Quoting A342 (Reply 10): Additionally, you can chose a route where you don't need them, even with a low MTOW. I suspect that's what they'll do.
SID-FOR is only 1536 nm - well within the range of a A318, yet alone an A318 without passengers. So I don't see why they would need to use aux tanks to get the aircraft from Africa to South America - and you certainly wouldn't need them to get from TLS (where the picture was taken) to SID, or FOR to SCL. Even if you needed a fuel stop in between TLS-SID or FOR-SCL, you certainly woudn't need to spend the money to modify the cabin for aux tanks.
A342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4627 posts, RR: 4 Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 11372 times:
Quoting LTU932 (Reply 11): I should have been more clear, so I apologise for the misunderstanding. With aux tanks, I meant temporary aux tanks, similar to those used on delivery flights of 717s to Hawaii.
No, I've understood you ! Still, see here why even those are unnecessary:
Quoting VictorKilo (Reply 12): SID-FOR is only 1536 nm - well within the range of a A318, yet alone an A318 without passengers. So I don't see why they would need to use aux tanks to get the aircraft from Africa to South America - and you certainly wouldn't need them to get from TLS (where the picture was taken) to SID, or FOR to SCL. Even if you needed a fuel stop in between TLS-SID or FOR-SCL, you certainly woudn't need to spend the money to modify the cabin for aux tanks.
KL808 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1571 posts, RR: 3 Reply 14, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 11185 times:
MCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8421 posts, RR: 16 Reply 15, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 10882 times:
I agree its too beautiful. I'm curious to know the routes LAN will use them on.
DEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4094 posts, RR: 2 Reply 16, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 10378 times:
That is the most beautiful livery on an A318 so far. Great that LAN Chile will soon have it in service. When are the rest due to follow?
What are the facilities at Ilheus like? A three leg TLS-DKR-IOS-SCL ferry routing would be relatively easy, with 2500+/- mile segments - well below the A318's 3,250 nm range limit.
I believe LCY certification is targetted for the first half of this year. The Airbus site says LA would use the A318s for domestic operations.
We may finally know if Pratt & Whitney is successful in this iteration of the PW6000 engine.
Minuteman From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 271 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 10320 times:
Are those brake fans on the mains? It seems unusual that a baby bus would need them, especially when it has thrust reversers.
EI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 10180 times:
Quoting DEVILFISH (Reply 16): I believe LCY certification is targetted for the first half of this year.
It would be great if WX ordered the A318 as they could use the maintainace & training facilities of AF, and offer a proper 5 abreast business class. With the new Avros arriving however this looks like only a long term possibility.
Felipemia89 From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 39 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 9349 times:
Beautiful aircraft! Can't wait until its inaugural flight for LAN.
WesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5218 posts, RR: 28 Reply 20, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 9302 times:
What a gorgeous looking Aircraft, cant WAIT to tryout LAN!
DAYflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 4 Reply 21, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9047 times:
CF188A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 22, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 7932 times:
can someone please tell me ... what the point in the A318 really was? I mean it is not more efficient than the EMB series... if i read these forums correctly.? How much life does this aircraft really have in store?
WesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5218 posts, RR: 28 Reply 24, posted (5 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 7883 times:
Quoting CF188A (Reply 22): How much life does this aircraft really have in store?
There is a small need for it, you will see some airlines either buy the aircraft as a step up from props, or for others, as a 737-500/DC-9 replacement
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25 CanadianNorth: A slightly shrunk A319 basically, to offer a 100 seat version of the popular A320 series. It is heavier and larger than the Embraer 190 but hauls rou
26 DEVILFISH: To be more specific, 9 more than the E190 and 1 less pax than the E195, significantly farther with substantially more cargo.
28 Mexicana757: Nice looking LAN A318. That would be the A318
29 A342: The A318 also has a better airfield performance than the E-series, maybe that point was imortant to LA.
30 DEVILFISH: Twenty (20) according to this Flightglobal report..... http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...testing-five-years-later-than.html Quote: "The first Pr
31 A342: You should include the A318Elite backlog, then the figure almost doubles.
32 WINGS: That is correct DEVILFISH. Lan currently have 20 A318 on firm order. I believe that LAN also hold some options as well. Here are the correct figures
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