Johnboy From United States, joined Aug 1999, 2159 posts, RR: 1 Posted (2 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1136 times:
Mea culpa, Cindy McCain.
....just when I think you're another bleach-blonde, Chanel-suited, leathery-skinned 2008 version of the ueber-Republican Stepford Wife, you throw a curve ball and jet across the world to that other Georgia ( a war zone!) and offer respite and words of comfort to several dozen refugees. No doubt bringing along an Anheuser-Busch CARE "package" or two, compliments of the Red, White and Blue.
...and all this while injured yourself and sporting a fashionable pink cast (..no painkillers, please!)
Cindy, you have carried many mantles in your life -- beer heiress, thief, addict, immoral homewrecker -- indeed, you're an entire Lifetime Network for Women Movie of the Week all rolled up into one.
Now...add one more title -- tireless globetrotter for peace and defender of American values. Just like the noble sort-of-reformed skank Diana, Princess of Wales was (um, except cross out that American part).
Godspeed, Cindy Hensley McCain....godspeed, fair first lady-in-training.
Sv7887 From United States, joined May 2008, 739 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (2 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1056 times:
Quoting Johnboy (Thread starter): Cindy, you have carried many mantles in your life -- beer heiress, thief, addict, immoral homewrecker -- indeed, you're an entire Lifetime Network for Women Movie of the Week all rolled up into one.
Are you kidding? Mrs. McCain inherited her money, so? If the press is correct she actually is quite involved in running her business. As far as getting addicted to drugs, isn't that a rite of passage in the US these days? Britney, Lindsay, and even Mr. Obama's brief usage of drugs.
Homewrecking? Now this is an equal opportunity trait amongst Liberals and GOP'ers.
The woman has done a lot of charity work, so she isn't a complete flake. Actually I think the Diana analogy is quite telling, except Mrs. McCain isn't the stunning beauty that Princess Diana was.
Dreadnought From United States, joined Feb 2008, 601 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (2 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1040 times:
Johnboy, You can't aren't worthy to hold Cindy McCain's bags.
Cindy McCain founded the American Voluntary Medical Team (AVMT) 20 years ago, which provided medical teams (kinda like MASH units) to places like Iraq, Kuwait, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Bangladesh and Vietnam in case of wars or natural disasters. She personally led 55 such missions.
She is no stranger to dropping into a crisis area, and unlike most such visitors, she has a history of actually helping, rather than just taking the tour for photo-ops like a typical politician.
You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life. - Winston Churchill
AGM100 From United States, joined Dec 2003, 2447 posts, RR: 11 Reply 9, posted (2 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 946 times:
Cindy McCain for all intents and purposes could have simply settled for a life like Paris Hilton. She was young , pretty ,rich and moving with Southern California / Arizona elite crowd. She could have done all the jet set movie star BS ... but she became a special education teacher. She did not want to work for her dad , so she became a teacher working with Special needs children.
I met her a couple of years ago at the Az School for the deaf and blind here in Tucson. She is one cool lady , and to this day much respected by the quiet volunteer's here in Az.
I would compare her in some ways with Princess Dianna , not the nobility part and the glamour. Comparisons to her efforts of charity and selfishness , you know things that really count.
I am not saying she is a saint , just seems to me to be a person who does care for the well-being of others.
What ? You re-elected Murtha!! ? What happened to PA ?
Dvk From United States, joined Jun 2000, 1013 posts, RR: 1 Reply 10, posted (2 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 930 times:
The real point is that the right is always emphasizing "character", and whatever else she has going for her, Cindy Lou's "character" is still that of an adulterous, narcotic addicted, drug stealing tramp. She's not on the ballot, but she's not off the hook any more than Theresa Kerry was last time around. Speaking of "character", her husband's is lacking as well. He came home from Vietnam and found that, rather than the beauty queen he married, his first wife
was fat and crippled from a serious car accident. His reaction was to cheat on her extensively and take Cindy as his mistress for the final year of his first marriage. John and Cindy married one month after his divorce. Sorry, but that's really sleazy.
If the right wingers who insisted "character" was an important criterion for choosing the President in the past four elections were true to their word, rather than hypocritical, they would reject John and Cindy immediately for failing that test. Their behavior was just as tawdry and dishonorable as Bill Clinton's, but then he was a Democrat. Apparently, only Democrats can fail the test of "character" that right wingers emphasize so strongly.
I'm not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information.
AGM100 From United States, joined Dec 2003, 2447 posts, RR: 11 Reply 11, posted (2 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 913 times:
Quoting Dvk (Reply 10): Apparently, only Democrats can fail the test of "character" that right wingers emphasize so strongly.
Who has failed the right winger test of character ? Kerry ? Gore ? Clinton ? Obama ? Who ?
The McCain's have never denied the issue , and we are not electing saints . I never did care WTF Bill Clinton did , but he put his finger in my face and said he did not do it. He is a Liar, thats all , and frankly is proving to be quite the A hole in this election as well.
Cindy McCain has had problems and experiences much like all of us have in our lives , they are humans.
What ? You re-elected Murtha!! ? What happened to PA ?
Johnboy From United States, joined Aug 1999, 2159 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (2 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 859 times:
Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 6): Johnboy, You can't aren't worthy to hold Cindy McCain's bags.
Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 8): Johnboy clearly wasn't "hiking" or "enjoying life" (as his profile says) when he wrote up this POS post...
Tsk, tsk....i am wounded by your words.
Quoting USXguy (Reply 3): Ok, so even though Cindy travelled half way around the world, that's a bad thing while Michelle Obama sits on The View gossiping??
Dreadnought From United States, joined Feb 2008, 601 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (2 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 854 times:
Quoting AGM100 (Reply 11): Cindy McCain has had problems and experiences much like all of us have in our lives , they are humans.
Ah, but that is where the McCains fail. How can mere humans compare to the Messiah, sent to us by God (as Pelosi said last week) to heal the nation, turn back the waters et al.
A telling episode was last week's quasi-debate with Rick Warren. When Warren asked each to describe their worst personal failure, McCain said "the destruction of my first marriage", for which he took full responsibility. Obama mentioned his drug use, and blamed it on an attitude of "selfishness" - but then he immediately said that selfishness was pervasive throughout our society. He's not entirely wrong, but it sounded to me like, "Yeah, I did something wrong, but everyone was doing it!" Very lame.
You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life. - Winston Churchill
Planespotting From United States, joined Apr 2004, 2701 posts, RR: 5 Reply 14, posted (2 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 844 times:
Quoting USXguy (Reply 3): I forgot that when you are a Republican, you are damned if you do, damned if you don't, liberals are always right, you are always wrong.
Ha. That's malarky -
Liberals are much more maligned than conservatives are.
Conversatives can pretty much do no wrong:
- Received mediocre or below average marks in school? No big deal W - you're an average joe!
- Became addicted to pain killers? That's ummm ... OK I guess ... we just won't talk about it, Rush.
- Cheated on your wife while riling against others' infidelity? You're still a winner Newty - just don't come forward until 10 years after the fact.
- Found Christianity later in life? Your story's remarkable, W.
- Married to an attractive, wealthy beverage heiress and can't count how many houses you own? We know how hard it is to remember which ones are condos, dwellings orinvestment properties, John.
- Avoided the Vietnam war through chummy draft board friends and a sweet appointment to an Air National Guard unit? No problem, Dick/W, you're real Patriots.
While for liberals it's like this:
- Harvard graduate? You'r a hoity toity elitist, Barack, not to mention out of touch with the common man!
- Vietnam veteran? You're full of it, Kerry, you enlisted for political purposes and then exaggurated what happened.
- Graduated from law school in the bottom 50% of your class? Biden - you're not smart enough to be vice president.
- Found Christianity later in life - We all know you're really a muslim, Barack.
- Married to an attractive, wealthy food heiress - You're a snobby elitist, Kerry.
No, McCain said "the FAILURE of my first marriage". He did not say "destruction", and he did not take responsibility for it in any way. He said it as if it were something that just happened, and did not acknowledge that his adultery had anything to do with it.
That's what you guys always try to say...that you only care because Clinton lied about Monica, but that's not the entire truth. It's old news now, but the fact of the hypocrisy in excusing McCain, and giving him much more credit for accepting responsibility than he really has acknowledged, is something that's not going to go away.
I'm not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information.
Mdsh00 From United States, joined May 2004, 3944 posts, RR: 16 Reply 16, posted (2 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 795 times:
Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 13): Ah, but that is where the McCains fail. How can mere humans compare to the Messiah, sent to us by God (as Pelosi said last week) to heal the nation, turn back the waters et al.
Quoting Planespotting (Reply 14): Ah, but that is where the McCains fail. How can mere humans compare to the Messiah, sent to us by God (as Pelosi said last week) to heal the nation, turn back the waters et al.
Republicans should be the last one making light of Obama being "the one." Wasn't Reagan relegated to near God-like status by conservatives? And GW Bush was noted by so many Christian Leaders as being God sent to put Christianity back into the Government? I'm just saying, it's a bit hypocritical for Republicans to attack with the hero-worship angle.
"Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a big fat white guy who is threatened by change."
AGM100 From United States, joined Dec 2003, 2447 posts, RR: 11 Reply 17, posted (2 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 793 times:
Quoting Dvk (Reply 15): That's what you guys always try to say...
I didn't try to say it , I said it.
Really I am voting for McCain because he is saying that he wants to cut spending and lower taxes. He wants to cut programs that Sen Obama wants to triple in size. Personally I dont care what he did in his past , just like I dont care much about Obama's "character".( What little he shows that isnt cut from some script writer somewhere). I want less government and lower taxes ... period.
The fact that as a Admirals son, J.McCain could have taken a nice cushy job at Pearl instead of flying A-4's over Hanoi is just icing on the cake.
See ?
What ? You re-elected Murtha!! ? What happened to PA ?
Planespotting From United States, joined Apr 2004, 2701 posts, RR: 5 Reply 18, posted (2 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 782 times:
Quoting AGM100 (Reply 17): Really I am voting for McCain because he is saying that he wants to cut spending and lower taxes.
That's great - if I was running for president, would you vote for me if I said I wanted to grow money trees in everyone's yard?
McCain hasn't said a lick of how he actually plans to cut any spending; he's just running for president on the ultra-blowhard "small government, less taxes" mantra that doesn't produce any results but does motivate people to vote for candidates who say it.
Dreadnought From United States, joined Feb 2008, 601 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (2 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 782 times:
Quoting Dvk (Reply 15): No, McCain said "the FAILURE of my first marriage". He did not say "destruction",
Sorry, I was speaking from memory. But effectively it is the same.
Quoting Dvk (Reply 15): and he did not take responsibility for it in any way. He said it as if it were something that just happened, and did not acknowledge that his adultery had anything to do with it.
The quote is below. The question was what was YOUR greatest moral failure. McCain recognizes clearly that the failure was his. He made no excuses either.
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