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F1 2012: Chinese Grand Prix  
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1661 times:

April 13-15
Shanghai International Circuit
Shanghai, China

Circuit Length 5.451kms 56 laps
Circuit Turns 16 Circuit Direction Clockwise
Capacity 200,000 Established 2004
Designer Hermann Tilke

     

Free practice 1

1 LC Hamilton (GBR) McLaren 1'37.106
2 N Rosberg (GER) Mercedes 1'38.116
3 M Schumacher (GER) Mercedes 1'38.316
4 S Perez (MEX) Sauber 1'38.584
5 K Kobayashi (JPN) Sauber 1'38.911
6 M Webber (AUS) Red Bull 1'38.977
7 S Vettel (GER) Red Bull 1'39.198
8 J Button (GBR) McLaren 1'39.199
9 D Ricciardo (AUS) Toro Rosso 1'39.748
10 JE Vergne (FRA) Toro Rosso 1'39.768
11 F Alonso (ESP) Ferrari 1'40.056
12 F Massa (BRA) Ferrari 1'40.153
13 V Bottas (FIN) Williams 1'40.298
14 N Hülkenberg (GER) Force India 1'40.328
15 P Maldonado (VEN) Williams 1'40.540
16 H Kovalainen (FIN) Caterham 1'41.071
17 R Grosjean (FRA) Lotus 1'41.204
18 T Glock (GER) Marussia 1'42.330
19 G Van der Garde (NED) Caterham 1'42.521
20 J Bianchi (FRA) Force India 1'44.118
21 PM de la Rosa (ESP) HRT 1'44.227
22 C Pic (FRA) Marussia 1'44.500
23 KRN Karthikeyan (IND) HRT 1'47.204
24 KM Räikkönen (FIN) Lotus 1'50.465

     

Free practice 2

1 M Schumacher (GER) Mercedes 1'35.973
2 LC Hamilton (GBR) McLaren 1'36.145
3 S Vettel (GER) Red Bull 1'36.160
4 M Webber (AUS) Red Bull 1'36.433
5 N Rosberg (GER) Mercedes 1'36.617
6 J Button (GBR) McLaren 1'36.711
7 K Kobayashi (JPN) Sauber 1'36.956
8 P di Resta (GBR) Force India 1'36.966
9 N Hülkenberg (GER) Force India 1'37.191
10 F Alonso (ESP) Ferrari 1'37.316
11 S Perez (MEX) Sauber 1'37.417
12 D Ricciardo (AUS) Toro Rosso 1'37.616
13 KM Räikkönen (FIN) Lotus 1'37.836
14 JE Vergne (FRA) Toro Rosso 1'37.930
15 R Grosjean (FRA) Lotus 1'37.972
16 P Maldonado (VEN) Williams 1'38.176
17 F Massa (BRA) Ferrari 1'38.293
18 B Senna (BRA) Williams 1'38.783
19 H Kovalainen (FIN) Caterham 1'38.990
20 V Petrov (RUS) Caterham 1'39.346
21 T Glock (GER) Marussia 1'39.651
22 PM de la Rosa (ESP) HRT 1'40.343
23 C Pic (FRA) Marussia 1'40.753
24 KRN Karthikeyan (IND) HRT 1'41.125

     


There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
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User currently offlineemrecan From Turkey, joined Feb 2000, 940 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1621 times:

Great result from Schumi!!!!

Let's hope to see him in the same position for the qual.


User currently offlineltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13073 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1609 times:

Schumi looking good...Hamilton (the Madame's fave) looking good too. I just got to figure out when they will show this race here in the USA. It may be live or on tape delay, and on a minor channel I will have to hunt for.

I know I may be a troublemaker for bringing this up, but an article on msnbc.com, a major news website here in the USA, had an article discussing the serious moral conflicts facing F1 with races located in politically difficult places like PRC and more notably Bahrain with it's recent uprisings against an authoritarian government with major and deadly repression of political opposition. There is pressure on advertisers and sponsors to race in such places to reach new and huge markets.Bernie I am quite sure is getting his cut for racing in controversial countries Of course this is nothing new to F1 with 1930's Germany being part of one of the most controversial eras in racing history, races that were held in South Africa during the Apartheid era and some would say having a race in the USA is controversial for F1 fans outside the USA for political reasons as well. Some race sites are in tax dodging locations with it own set of controversies. So what do you guys here, especially outside the USA, think about F1 racing in politically controversial and authoritian countries ?   


User currently onlinescbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12464 posts, RR: 46
Reply 3, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1603 times:
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Quoting emrecan (Reply 1):
Great result from Schumi!!!!
Quoting ltbewr (Reply 2):
Schumi looking good...



The Mercedes looks good in practice, but is not delivering when it really matters. One point from two races tells you something.

Hamilton to take a 5-place drop on the grid because of a gearbox change.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/17686441



Time flies like an arrow, but fruit flies like a banana!
User currently offlinerifkyrifky From Indonesia, joined Feb 2011, 28 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1602 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Thread starter):
24 KM Räikkönen (FIN) Lotus 1'50.465

Hm.. Very poor lap on the first free practice by Kimi  
Quoting MadameConcorde (Thread starter):

But thank god he got the 2nd one quite well haha

I really hope Kimi does well on the Chinese and all of the Grand Prix!  

Regards,
Rifky


User currently offlinemoo From Falkland Islands, joined May 2007, 3909 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1601 times:

I used to really look forward to a Hamilton drive, but these days I find myself watching Button or Vettel instead, and waiting for Hamilton to do something stupid or uncouth.

 


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 6, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1600 times:

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 2):
Hamilton (the Madame's fave)

Sorry to say this but not anymore... I don't support the choices he has made. He is no longer the same Hammy he was when I saw him the first year he came to Monaco. He has now moved here. This is the building.
http://www.emporis.fr/building/leroccabella-monaco-monaco
The McLaren store is just some steps away.

Anyway, this is a really funny video from Shanghai two years ago.

Sebastien Buemi and the cat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQYMpZxPe4k

  



There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlinemoo From Falkland Islands, joined May 2007, 3909 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1592 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 6):
Anyway, this is a really funny video from Shanghai two years ago.

Sebastien Buemi and the cat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQYMp...xPe4k

This one from this morning:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/17699329

Race engineer to Timo Glock: "Do you need new underwear, or are you alright?"


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 8, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1592 times:

Quoting moo (Reply 7):
Race engineer to Timo Glock: "Do you need new underwear, or are you alright?"

Cannot play media. Sorry, this media is not available in your territory.

 



There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8442 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1589 times:

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 2):
Bernie I am quite sure is getting his cut for racing in controversial countries Of course this is nothing new to F1 with 1930's Germany being part of one of the most controversial eras in racing history, races that were held in South Africa during the Apartheid era and some would say having a race in the USA is controversial for F1 fans outside the USA for political reasons as well.

Bernie thinks the drivers are a bunch of over paid Prima-donnas. He would probably send them to race through a Chernobyl type place if given the chance.

Quoting scbriml (Reply 3):
The Mercedes looks good in practice, but is not delivering when it really matters. One point from two races tells you something.

They seem to have some reliability issues and a lack of consistent race pace. However their rear wing has been made legal so expect everyone to start copying it over the next few races.


User currently offlineflipdewaf From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2006, 1568 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1583 times:
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Quoting Bill142 (Reply 9):
However their rear wing has been made legal so expect everyone to start copying it over the next few races.

I Thnink they all knew it was legal really but the issue remains that it is easy and cheap to design a car with it in but not easy to design it in after the fact, I don't expect to see it in many ther cars this year.

Fred


User currently offlinemoo From Falkland Islands, joined May 2007, 3909 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1578 times:

Quoting flipdewaf (Reply 10):
I Thnink they all knew it was legal really but the issue remains that it is easy and cheap to design a car with it in but not easy to design it in after the fact, I don't expect to see it in many ther cars this year.

This is easier than the original F-duct would have been, as the main issue with that was that the body was homogulated at the start of the season, meaning that if you didn't have a well placed hole it in to start off with, you won't have any luck placing the duct.

In this case, rear wings and front wings are not, so you can add the ducts and duct work to them easily enough.

Christian Horner made an interesting comment on this situation, and one I've thought personally for ages - his issue with it is that he wants guarantees that it won't simply be banned at the end of this season, like so many things. F1 is supposed to have a focus on cost savings these days, but all too often we are seeing something being heavily developed for a single season only to have it banned and the money goes to waste.

He has a point...


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 12, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1536 times:

Shanghai

Kung Fu Vettel: Drive of the Dragon

Formula One World Champion Sebastian Vettel started his Chinese Grand Prix weekend in unusual fashion on Wednesday, starring in a martial arts short film alongside Hollywood actress, model and martial arts expert Celina Jade.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28u5c8zf5m4

  



There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently onlinescbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12464 posts, RR: 46
Reply 13, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1520 times:
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Quoting Bill142 (Reply 9):
However their rear wing has been made legal so expect everyone to start copying it over the next few races.

Yes, but if it's not worth much (anything?) in race conditions (when DRS use is limited), then there's no compelling reason for other teams to copy it.



Time flies like an arrow, but fruit flies like a banana!
User currently offlinemoo From Falkland Islands, joined May 2007, 3909 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1512 times:

Quoting scbriml (Reply 13):
Yes, but if it's not worth much (anything?) in race conditions (when DRS use is limited), then there's no compelling reason for other teams to copy it.

However, for a team with an already fast car, the gains it offers in qualifying are most certainly worth it - Ferrari might not gain anything from it, but it might serve to lock out the front row a few more times for McLaren.


User currently offlinesudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1502 times:

Quoting flipdewaf (Reply 10):
I Thnink they all knew it was legal really but the issue remains that it is easy and cheap to design a car with it in but not easy to design it in after the fact, I don't expect to see it in many ther cars this year.

the wing is not like the floor or side pods, so therefore it can be made afterwards without having to make major changes to rear of the car. We will most likely see most of the team run this rear wing within a couple of races.



When in doubt, flat out!
User currently onlinescbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12464 posts, RR: 46
Reply 16, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1489 times:
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Quoting sudden (Reply 15):
the wing is not like the floor or side pods, so therefore it can be made afterwards without having to make major changes to rear of the car.

But it's not actually a rear wing device.   

It's basically an F-duct that's already built into the car and is simply "exposed" when DRS opens the rear wing flap. The air taken in through those ducts is routed to the front wing where it exits through the lower surface, stalling the front wing and reducing drag in a straight line.

The issue for the other teams is how they engineer those ducts into cars that were not designed to allow for them.

A good explanation here (which also echos my point about Mercedes race results):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKUziKDe51A



Time flies like an arrow, but fruit flies like a banana!
User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8442 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1476 times:

Quoting scbriml (Reply 13):
Yes, but if it's not worth much (anything?) in race conditions (when DRS use is limited), then there's no compelling reason for other teams to copy it.

Paddy Lowes comments would imply that McLaren, at least, feel otherwise.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/98691


User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8827 posts, RR: 24
Reply 18, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1472 times:

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 2):

I know I may be a troublemaker for bringing this up, but an article on msnbc.com, a major news website here in the USA, had an article discussing the serious moral conflicts facing F1 with races located in politically difficult places like PRC and more notably Bahrain with it's recent uprisings against an authoritarian government with major and deadly repression of political opposition. There is pressure on advertisers and sponsors to race in such places to reach new and huge markets.Bernie I am quite sure is getting his cut for racing in controversial countries Of course this is nothing new to F1 with 1930's Germany being part of one of the most controversial eras in racing history, races that were held in South Africa during the Apartheid era and some would say having a race in the USA is controversial for F1 fans outside the USA for political reasons as well. Some race sites are in tax dodging locations with it own set of controversies. So what do you guys here, especially outside the USA, think about F1 racing in politically controversial and authoritian countries ?

Don't care. This is an international sporting series, looking for the best tracks, cars and drivers in the world. If Iran or North Korea put up a world class team or build a world class track, more power to them.

Let's not mix sports with politics.



Veni Vidi Castratavi Illegitimos
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 19, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 1463 times:

Free practice 3

1 LC Hamilton (GBR) McLaren 11
2 J Button (GBR) McLaren 12
3 N Rosberg (GER) Mercedes 13
4 M Schumacher (GER) Mercedes 14
5 M Webber (AUS) Red Bull 14
6 S Perez (MEX) Sauber 16
7 P Maldonado (VEN) Williams 15
8 S Vettel (GER) Red Bull 13
9 KM Räikkönen (FIN) Lotus 15
10 K Kobayashi (JPN) Sauber 15
11 JE Vergne (FRA) Toro Rosso 13
12 F Alonso (ESP) Ferrari 9
13 D Ricciardo (AUS) Toro Rosso 12
14 B Senna (BRA) Williams 9
15 R Grosjean (FRA) Lotus 14
16 P di Resta (GBR) Force India 12
17 N Hülkenberg (GER) Force India 12
18 F Massa (BRA) Ferrari 11
19 H Kovalainen (FIN) Caterham 16
20 V Petrov (RUS) Caterham 14
21 T Glock (GER) Marussia 14
22 C Pic (FRA) Marussia 13
23 PM de la Rosa (ESP) HRT 13
24 KRN Karthikeyan (IND) HRT 9

  

Qualifying 1

1 Perez MEX Sauber 8 in pits
2 Alonso ESP Ferrari 8 in pits
3 Grosjean FRA Lotus 8 in pits
4 Maldonado VEN Williams 8 in pits
5 Massa BRA Ferrari 8 in pits
6 di Resta GBR Force India 8 in pits
7 Senna BRA Williams 8 in pits
8 Webber AUS Red Bull 3 in pits
9 Button GBR McLaren 7 in pits
10 Hamilton GBR McLaren 5 in pits
11 Schumacher GER Mercedes 5 in pits
12 Räikkönen FIN Lotus 7 in pits
13 Kobayashi JPN Sauber 4 in pits
14 Rosberg GER Mercedes 5 in pits
15 Vettel GER Red Bull 3 in pits
16 Hülkenberg GER Force India 8 in pits
17 Ricciardo AUS Toro Rosso 8 in pits

18 Vergne FRA Toro Rosso 8 in pits
19 Kovalainen FIN Caterham 9 in pits
20 Petrov RUS Caterham 7 in pits
21 Glock GER Marussia 10 in pits
22 Pic FRA Marussia 10 in pits
23 de la Rosa ESP HRT 7 in pits
24 Karthikeyan IND HRT 10 in pits

 airplane 

[Edited 2012-04-13 23:26:06]


There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlinesudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1459 times:

Quoting emrecan (Reply 1):
Great result from Schumi!!!!
Quoting ltbewr (Reply 2):
Schumi looking good

And again you folks seem to not see that free practise is just that, practise So stop thinking that this is an indication of how Sunday will look like cause it's so far from the truth you can come.

Quoting moo (Reply 5):
I used to really look forward to a Hamilton drive, but these days I find myself watching Button or Vettel instead, and waiting for Hamilton to do something stupid or uncouth.

Yeah, you sure picked a good replacement when watching Vettel instead cause he's such a mature man! (Yes, sarcasm applies in case you didn't get it)



When in doubt, flat out!
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 21, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1458 times:

Qualifying 2

1 Webber AUS Red Bull 11 in pits
2 Rosberg GER Mercedes 8 in pits
3 Schumacher GER Mercedes 8 in pits
4 Perez MEX Sauber 14 in pits
5 Kobayashi JPN Sauber 10 in pits
6 Hamilton GBR McLaren 9 in pits
7 Grosjean FRA Lotus 13 in pits
8 Räikkönen FIN Lotus 10 in pits
9 Button GBR McLaren 13 in pits
10 Alonso ESP Ferrari 14 in pits

11 Vettel GER Red Bull 11 in pits
12 Massa BRA Ferrari 14 in pits
13 Maldonado VEN Williams 14 in pits
14 Senna BRA Williams 14 in pits
15 di Resta GBR Force India 14 in pits
16 Hülkenberg GER Force India 14 in pits
17 Ricciardo AUS Toro Rosso 14 in pits
18 Vergne FRA Toro Rosso 8 in pits
19 Kovalainen FIN Caterham 9 in pits
20 Petrov RUS Caterham 7 in pits
21 Glock GER Marussia 10 in pits
22 Pic FRA Marussia 10 in pits
23 de la Rosa ESP HRT 7 in pits
24 Karthikeyan IND HRT 10 in pit

  

Good on the Saubers!


THE GRID

Nico takes pole - Schumi will be starting right along as Hammy has the 5 places penalty

1 Germany N Rosberg Mercedes
2 Great Britain L Hamilton McLaren
3 Germany M Schumacher Mercedes
4 Japan K Kobayashi Sauber
5 Finland K Raikkonen Lotus
6 Great Britain J Button McLaren
7 Australia M Webber Red Bull
8 Mexico S Perez Sauber
9 Spain F Alonso Ferrari
10 Switzerland R Grosjean Lotus
11 Germany S Vettel Red Bull
12 Brazil F Massa Ferrari
13 Venezuela P Maldonado Williams
14 Brazil B Senna Williams
15 Great Britain P Di Resta Force India
16 Germany N Hulkenberg Force India
17 Australia D Ricciardo Toro Rosso
18 France J Vergne Toro Rosso
19 Finland H Kovalainen Caterham
20 Russian Federation V Petrov Caterham
21 Germany T Glock Marussia
22 France C Pic Marussia
23 Spain P de la Rosa HRT
24 India N Karthikeyan HRT

 airplane 

Congrats to Kamui!!! Fantastic surprise!!! The Saubers are good!!!!!!

 cheerful 

[Edited 2012-04-14 00:07:21]


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User currently offlineLarshjort From Denmark, joined Dec 2007, 1444 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1450 times:

Congratulations to Rosberg and Mercedes. First time on P1.

/Lars



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User currently offlinestealthz From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5689 posts, RR: 44
Reply 23, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1403 times:
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Interesting reaction from SV when informed he did not make Q3

Somewhat condescending reaction from MS when advised of Nico's laptime... might have appeared less condescending if he got approx .5 sec closer to matching it!!

Most promising thing I saw on the Aus Qualy show was an appearance by LH with his dad, I think Lewis' performance has fallen off(and I doubt I am the only one) since he fell out with his father and anything like a closer relationship can only be a good thing.

Congrats to Merc on their front row.. haven't seen that in a while, (I am one of the older contributors here and the last one was before I was born!!)



If your camera sends text messages, that could explain why your photos are rubbish!
User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8442 posts, RR: 8
Reply 24, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1323 times:

Vettel stuffed it up at the start. He'll probably go park it in a few laps because he'll realise he's out of his depth having to actually race people.

25 Bill142 : Very exciting race. Loads of wheel to wheel racing and amazing no one crashed into anyone else. Great drive by Rosberg and it was about time he won a
26 B747forever : True, the race was fantastic! A great job by Rosberg. He deserves this victory.
27 Post contains images MadameConcorde : Yes certainly. So much good action! Not a boring moment! Congrats to Nico for his first GP win from pole. 3 cars with Mercedes engines making the 3 f
28 QFA380 : That was a pretty incredible race, was a little worried for Button with that pit stop at the end but it didn't really change much. I was certainly gla
29 Post contains images MadameConcorde : This is true. I was just so upset about this.
30 Bill142 : That's a bit over the top. Perhaps if Stalin was in charge you'd get your wish and then some. I think you're right. It was either a fault in the gun,
31 B747forever : I doubt it as it seemed that he struggled to keep the same pace as the other guys after a few laps. He lost out on the chance to try catch up on Rosb
32 Bill142 : Alonso was massively faster than Massa. There was no need, at that point, for Massa to fight him.
33 stealthz : If you are going to fire every mech every time they make a mistake you should also fire every overpaid driver when they make one... you wil run out o
34 B747forever : Yes, Alonso was faster, but why not let them handle it themselves instead of using team orders?
35 sudden : Because in that case Massa would just hold up Alonso, and Ferrari can simply not afford having a rerun of last years season. They need to stay in con
36 B747forever : If he was "massively" faster than Massa, it wouldnt have been a problem for Alonso to pass him. Anyway, there is no point in discussing this, because
37 moo : Alonso: sixth place was possible without traffic. Only sixth? Surely without other cars to worry about, higher positions should be within easy reach..
38 sudden : Dude, it's a GP (Grand Prix), which usually includes more then 1 car. The only reason one of the Ferrari's are fast is because of Alonso, not because
39 DiamondFlyer : Entertaining race to watch here in the states, on re-run. Very difficult for the open wheel fans today to watch the re-run and the live Grand Prix of
40 GrahamHill : I just finished watching the replay of the race. Congratulations to Rosberg for his first win! It was quite a comfortable win, I have to say, especial
41 Newark727 : Wow, exciting race for second there at the end.
42 aerobalance : What would that be? They delivered Don't go silent on us now...
43 sudden : True that. Even though it might be sad in a way, Ferrari need to replace Massa soon as possible. If they are to have any shot at all at any title the
44 moo : Whoosh. Without traffic, even a HRT could make higher than sixth.... I think Alonso is too quick to blame traffic for his woes.
45 sudden : Did you actually notice how many cars were fighting for second place, and also amount of cars being lapped?
46 moo : Again, whoosh. You must be striving really hard to not see the humour...
47 Bill142 : True, which is why I don't expect him to be in a Ferrari next season. He's stuck on the Vettel train.
48 Aesma : How many times did Button mechanics screw him up over the years ? But well, at least he's second, and the winner isn't Vettel. I really didn't thought
49 sudden : In that case you need to actually try to be funny, to start with
50 moo : Why all the hate for the mechanics? You haven't idea what the problems were that cost Schumacher the race or Button time - by several accounts the aut
51 Post contains images moo : Whatever.
52 moo : The simple fact is that there are always other cars on the track, and passing them is your job as a driver - whether they are positions or back marker
53 Aesma : Aren't the lights managed by a mechanic ? Frankly, the number of those incidents is high enough that there should be an agreed upon way to stop the c
54 Post contains images moo : The BBC commentators were saying that in the Mercs case the lights are controlled by contact between the guns and the car - when the guns come off th
55 scbriml : In the hands of Rosberg, yes they did, but Schumacher looked like a mobile road-block. Hamilton's grid drop and Button's botched last pit-sop helped
56 Post contains images MadameConcorde : A very happy birthday to Sir Frank Williams
57 Post contains images GrahamHill : True. It might come sooner than next year. If Massa keeps racing anonymously like that, I bet he will be replaced before half of the season. Ferrari
58 DiamondFlyer : Why shouldn't he be? If that meant the team would take points for 1st and 2nd, I see no reason to do nothing more than keep everyone behind himself a
59 B747forever : You really believe he would have managed 2nd? As he pitted, the others would be able to go after Rosberg, and then pass Schumi after their pit stops.
60 zckls04 : That's never a great strategy as it leaves you vulnerable to an undercut.
61 DiamondFlyer : He may have, he may not have. Who knows, that's beside the point now. I feel he may have been trying to save the tires some, but who knows. Perhaps w
62 B747forever : Can you then explain to me why he was among the first to pit (if not the first one)? It wasnt like he stayed out there trying to save on the tires wh
63 scbriml : No reason he shouldn't be. But, I don't believe for one second that he'd ever see himself in that role. I have no doubt he was driving as fast as he
64 Post contains images swissy : So by your definition...if you cant pass the car in front of you, the car in front of you is a road block??? MS came out of the pits in front of the
65 scbriml : But he failed that miserably (even without his wheel issue) when he came out 6th after his stop, behind Button and Hamilton who had both already pitt
66 B747forever : Oh yeah, I forget that. As you wrote, he came out after Button and Hamilton.
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F1 2010 :Japanese Grand Prix (Suzuka) posted Tue Oct 5 2010 05:45:55 by stealthz
F1 2010: Italian Grand Prix - Monza posted Tue Sep 7 2010 04:09:55 by MadameConcorde
F1 2010: Belgian Grand Prix-SPA! posted Mon Aug 23 2010 13:13:14 by BlueElephant
F1 2010: British Grand Prix posted Mon Jul 5 2010 10:46:59 by MadameConcorde
F1 2010: Monaco Grand Prix Photo Gallery posted Wed May 19 2010 07:58:58 by MadameConcorde
F1 2010: Monaco Grand Prix! posted Mon May 10 2010 03:10:54 by MadameConcorde
F1 2010: Spanish Grand Prix Barcelona posted Tue May 4 2010 02:27:47 by Stealthz
F1 2010: Malaysian Grand Prix posted Tue Mar 30 2010 10:55:31 by BlueElephant